Adding recessed lights to existing ceiling fan connection

I tried to add two recessed lights to our home's master bedroom, and they are not working. I hope you can help me understand what went wrong, and how to make them work.

First I installed the lights in the ceiling and wired them together by splicing black to black, white-white, ground-ground. I turned the power off, and cut the power cable to a circuit that powers two lights and the garage door. I put the ends into a junction box, and spliced them with a third wire to use as a power supply for the recessed lights. All of these cables are 14-2.

I ran the power supply wire down the wall to a single-pole switch. I attached the black power supply to the lower pole of the switch, and attached the black that goes to the first light to the top pole. I spliced the white to the white that goes on to the first light, and ground to ground.

When I turn the power on, the garage door and existing lights work, but the new recessed lights do nothing. I thought I might have the black...

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If you have access from above, you can make and install your own support brace using a length of 2x4 lumber nailed to the ceiling joists on both sides of the box location (Image 2). Position the brace directly above the ceiling box. From below, use wood screws to attach the ceiling box securely to the brace.

If you do not have access to work above the ceiling, you can install an expanding metal brace from below to support the ceiling box and fan. First, remove the existing box, then insert the brace up through the hole and secure it in position by ratcheting the mechanism into place. As the ratchet is turned from below, arms on the brace extend until they contact the ceiling joists on both sides of the hole (Image 3 demonstration). The spikes on the arms anchor securely into the wood. Some braces are available with a ceiling box attached, or you can attach the existing ceiling box to the brace.

This method also may be used to mount a...

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First off I have done small electrical projects like add outlets, but never anything major. I have a loft with a ceiling fan/light that is just not bright enough to light up the entire room. The light is controlled by one switch, the fan by another. The house is 10 years old running 14/2 to the switches.

I would like to add a few LED recessed lights into the room to brighten it up a bit, and would like them to be on their own dimmer switch.

Can I wire the Fan/Light into one switch from one hot wire, then use the extra hot wire connected to the other switch to then power the series of LED can lights (then pig tail the neutral and ground)? Attached is a diagram of my proposed wiring. Obviously I want to stay within code to be safe. Thanks...

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I'm not going to be touching the wires for the ceiling fan anymore.

Ok, I did some research about how I should connect the recessed lights. From the information I have read and understood, this is how I came up with my wiring connection. Is it correct?

The reason I did not add the ground wire is because I didn't see a ground wire from the outlet. Not sure why there isn't one.

This is fine, except you will have 5 wires under one wire nut at the first light which can be a little difficult to work with. Of course if you use 14 ga wire then it is less of an issue. Plus, I assume you are making all the connections in each light's housing, and you will likely be very tight on space at the first fixture with 5 cables coming into it. What most electricians would do is daisy chain the lights. In other words bring power into the first light, then take it to the next, and so on (see my orange lines on your picture). Finally, you are now adding lights to an outlet...

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How To Install Recessed Lights In A Drop Ceiling

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A drop ceiling is a very common feature in offices, basements, theaters, and schools. Its made from a metal grid and tiles or panels hung below the structural ceiling. Also known as a secondary ceiling, suspended ceiling, T-bar ceiling, or false ceiling, it most often conceals air ducts or pipes for a clean look in a previously unfinished area. Often, these ceilings feature recessed can lights a sleek option to illuminate a space without diminishing any headroom.

Whether youre building a brand new drop ceiling complete with recessed cans, or adding them to an existing ceiling, youll need to accommodate some special electrical and structural needs with your installation.

Follow these steps to add recessed lights to your drop ceiling:

1. Find the right lights.

Heat is...

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Adding a ceiling fan to a room is a fairly easy project for the average home handyman. While normally installed for cooling, ceiling fans can help with a home's heating as well, circulating the hot air that accumulates along the ceiling down into the room, where the people are. Most ceiling fans come with a switch to reverse the fan's direction. This allows the fan to push air downward in the summer for cooling and pull it upward in the winter to facilitate heating.

Most modern houses are built with light fixtures in the center of every room's ceiling, providing an easy place to connect a ceiling fan. The light fixture is removed and the fan installed in its place. This drastically reduces the amount of work required to install the ceiling fan, as the necessary wiring is already in place.

Depending on how the home is wired, there might be a single switch to control both the fan and light, or a dual switch for separate control of the fan and switch. All ceiling fans...

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Assess whether there are wires inside the housing for a lighting assembly.

Because you will want to be able to control the light and the fan separately, there will need to be existing wiring inside the housing to allow light assembly operation. You should see several wires inside the housing that are capped off by themselves with wire nuts. They could be a variety of colors but most likely will be black (power) and white (neutral).

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With any luck the wires inside the housing will even be labeled with something like "lighting power" or something like that. This is a very good sign that you will...
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Adding a recessed light above the shower provides welcome illumination while showering. Recessed bathroom lighting is perfect for the ceiling above the shower because it does not take up any space over head. A special moisture-resistant bathroom light fixture is required in the shower because the area is subject to so much moisture and humidity. You may replace an existing light fixture or install a new fixture after an electrician runs the necessary wiring. Choose a simple recessed light or select a light-and-heat-lamp combination or a light-and-fan combination.

Hold the template that comes with your new recessed light on the ceiling between joists and trace the shape onto the ceiling with a pencil. This is your guide for cutting out the drywall. Before you begin the installation process, turn off the electricity to your bathroom.

Use a drywall saw or a small jigsaw fitted with a drywall blade to cut through the ceiling. Take care not to cut deeper...

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Created by German inventor Phillip Diehl, electronically-controlled ceiling fans arrived in 1882. While ceiling fan styles and features have changed significantly in the past 130 years, their primary operation has remained the same until now, with the introduction of smart home technology.

In this article, we take a look at the hottest smart ceiling fan solutions currently available on the market and the technology behind them.

The Different Types of Ceiling Fans

A ceiling fan has one purpose: to circulate air. In the warmer months, ceiling fans should rotate counterclockwise to push cold air down to the floor. During the colder months, ceiling fans should rotate clockwise to pull cool air up.

Pull-chain/pull-cord control ceiling fans usually have three speeds. As the name suggests, these fans include a tethered metal-bean chain or cloth cord.

In the 1970s and 1980, variable-speed control fans gained in popularity. These feature a...

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Holiday lights can have a bad reputation, but it’s my goal to help put some sparkle back in your season; to “lighten” your load a bit. Below you’ll find all the lights you need to prep your home for a headache-free holiday, from practical essentials to the best decorative fixtures and everything in between.

1. LED String Lights

Holiday string lights have always been one of the season’s classic hallmarks, and also one of its biggest jokes. With their festive beauty often comes hours upon hours of trial and error, trying to find that single burnt-out light bulb ruining the bunch.

But, you shouldn’t have to worry about burnt-out lights if you use LED Holiday Lights for your home this year. They have a 60,000 hour rated-life, so they’ll stay lit for a long, long time.

On top of the impressive lifetime, LED lights generate much less heat, so you won’t have to worry about holiday fire hazards. Plus, they use about 90% less energy than incandescent string...

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replying to dennisgauge , TC wrote:

yes weird, the old post came up in a google search so just added on to it. glad it worked.

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so, there was a flush mount light installed at location above sink. It stopped working so I had to remove it and once it was out, liked the open space look. So decided to look into a type of lighting that would be more flush with the ceiling than standard globe lighting.

Came across a light at Home Depot that was in recessed/can lights section. Designed so that base fits right into a round plastic box with notches to accommodate the screw locations, but the box I still have in place has different screw configurations. See photos.

Need to install a different style box, but concerned about taking the old one out using methods stated in earlier posts. If I rip it out can I get a new one back in its place? Maybe one with the side clamps would be ok.

Hope that helps clear things up, photos...

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queenvilla, you illustrate my point with your photo.

The light on the fan lowers the height visually of your lovely ceiling and draws the eye to that illuminated glass bowl which provides very little light and certainly poor quality light at that. It doesn't enhance the lovely aspects of the furniture beneath it, and it's not possible to read using this light. It's not even bright enough to clean using that's just light.

As I look around my office, this small 12 x 15 room has three various types of table lamps to illuminate the room at both high and low levels. Your room could use a narrow lamp on the sideboard, one in the corner to illuminate the plant and probably another table light for the lounge chair. Your current lamp would provide better light with a linen instead of opaque paper shade which directs the light only up and down. Many times people add more and more objects to their rooms to make them interesting, but the room likely...

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Replace your existing lights with recessed lighting. Recessed lighting can highlight specific areas in a room or accentuate decorative elements. Since the lights are hidden, the ceiling lines aren't broken and your rooms feel more open and spacious.

Planning Your Recessed Lighting

Before you begin, think about the effect you want to achieve and how best to obtain it. Then ask yourself a few questions.

If no existing fixture exists, you may pull power from another circuit or add a new circuit to the main electrical panel. Consult a licensed electrician before adding lights to a new circuit to ensure that the added power requirement does not overload the circuit.

What effect do you want from the lighting? Down lights project a cone of light straight down. The cone for a 100-watt light in an 8-ft ceiling is usually 8-ft in diameter at the floor. The cones of light should overlap for maximum effect. Space the down lights so the distance between lights...
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Buying Recessed Lights

A recessed light assembly consists of the housing (Photos 8 and 9), trim (Photo 12) and lamp. Labels inside the housing list the compatible trim styles and lamps for each. Deviating from the specifications can cause inefficient lighting, and more important, dangerous overheating.

Home centers stock a selection of basic housings and trim that cost from $20 to $40 depending on style. You’ll have to special-order less-common lights like the 4-in. low-voltage fixtures we’re using. Lighting showrooms usually have a wider selection and salespeople who can help you design your lighting and order the fixtures. Manufacturers’ catalogs are another great source of information, including a complete list of housings, trim styles and lamps as well as design tips and technical information.

For open framing, buy standard housings that include mounting brackets (Photo 8). If you’re fishing wires into an existing ceiling, buy remodeling housings (Photo 9). Make...

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I replaced an old ceiling fan in my sons room that had a light fixture and dimmer switch. The new ceiling fan only operates with a remote that it came with. No pull strings for the light or fan. I also want to add a couple of recessed lights so he gets more light as the fan light fixture does not give off much light.

Currently I have a armored electrical cable in the ceiling with Red/Black/White. The new ceiling fan remote receiver has red/white cable on one side and on the other, blue, black, white. I ran romex cable to the recessed cans and attached them together matching the white/black/and bare. I have the cable for the recessed lights in the same ceiling hole for the the fan ready. How do I make the connection so that the recessed lights work with a dimmer switch and the fan and fan light work with the remote it came with? We will used the recessed lighting and fan 99% of the time, and rarely use the fan light.

In the switch box, I see the armored red joined with...

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This is kind of a complicated question, but I think I have figured out how to do it right. I wanted to run it by some folks here before going to the city code enforcer. See the attached diagrams for details.

I am planning a fairly elaborate lighting scheme for my home theater area, mostly because I plan for the theater automation to be a hobby for me. (I'm an electrical engineer)

I want to have banks of lights that I could later choose to group differently onto dimmer switches. For example, I have six can lights. Some people I have talked to think I should dim the front four together and back two separately. Some think I should dim the front two together and back four separately. Some say I should dim them all together.

So I decided I'd run each group of two cans to a junction box, run the switches to a junction box, and then wire the switches to the lights in the junction box - then I could later change it if I decided it should work differently. In...

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Do you have a switch in your bedrooms that controls a plug on the wall? Builders do this to save money, but it isn't really the most convenient set up! We show you how to add a ceiling fan to a bedroom that has a wall switch that controls a receptacle (the proper name for a plug). You can make your plug hot all the time or leave it on the switch with the light. The fan can be controlled by the pull chain and totally independent of the light. Get it working how you want it! Find out how here!

Warning: You'll need some former wiring experience. This is not a wiring coarse, but we show you how to get this job wired.

Whether you want to install a ceiling fan with a light or just a light, you need to get that wall switch to control a light in the room. Watch it to find out how.

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My kitchen's ceiling fan wiring is as below and I'm adding four 5" recessed lights that are not IC rated. My first question is should I return them and get IC rated lights? I have attic access though it's tight. There's blown insulation and I'm concerned about cold winters. I don't mind and there is enough room to build enclosures if it gets that cold, but I don't know if it's better to just get IC rated lights. It's a 20 mile drive to nearest hardware store with such supplies so grabbed the lights that came with everything included so I won't miss a component and have to make multiple trips. Unfortunately, they're not IC rated.

The line comes from the breaker to the light switch, then goes out toward the fan and is cut and spliced with elec tape so it's hard see all internal wires, but it looks like a blk, wht, red, grd get spliced into a blk, wht and grd and continues without the red.
then to a box with one wire going in and one wire...

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