Is notching a flange on an I-Joist ever acceptable?


It is rather difficult to determine whether torture is ever acceptable. From different points of view, it can be said that each person has his own opinion considering the issue, and this issue is rather contradictive. It is known that are thousands of various situations of torture and consequently, in some of them torture is being used, for example to prevent terrorist attacks or to get the important information.

Thesis: Torture is unacceptable, as all human beings have their rights, and there are other modern ways of punishment and ways to get information from people. Many experts find torture unnecessary and claim that it is not effective any more.

Obviously, there are other methods of getting useful information that can save lives, but it has also been proven that not all people can be tortured and as a consequence tell the truth. Some of them lie when they are tortured and some of them just say nothing. Many experts think that torture is effective, but the other...

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Is torture ever acceptable? |

If the potential information gained is worth it, yes

Whether or not torture is an acceptable act is a very subjective issue and should not be taken lightly. Torturing an innocent person for sensitive information is almost never acceptable, but torturing a terrorist who wants to kill innocents is usually deemed to be okay. If the information gained through torturing is enough to stop the suffering of many people, then usually it would be deemed acceptable.


Torture should be allowed

Torture definitely is a topic that is sensitive to most of the public eye, but it also needs to be talked about. Torture should be acceptable, only if there is a set reason to use it. I personally think that torture should only be used by the government to get information out of a terrorist or someone who knows something that the government needs.


Third World Perspective

I'm from Pakistan. After...

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Thanks for your responses.

Long story short -- last year a contractor started framing the deck but never finished. This year a new contractor took over and continued where the other left off.

Some joists are not level by about 1/8"-3/16" between adjacent joists. The joists are 16" apart. In other words, one side of the joist bay might be 3/16" higher or lower than the other side so when I lay the decking down there can be a 3/16" difference across the 16" inches. And then maybe another 1/8" difference to the next joist over the next 16 inches. The joists themselves appear to be pretty much level across the full 18' length of the joists.

The latest carpenter already did some planing and shimming so I can't really tell where the crown is anymore. In order to bump up the two joists that are low, I guess I can remove some hurricane brackets and joist hangers, shim, and re-install as you suggest but I am concerned that when I reinstall them they will not be...

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A popular construction material these days are floor I-beams, sometimes called "Engineered Floor Joists." You have seen them. They are convenient and easy to use. But there are strict guidelines for notching or cutting holes in engineered floor joists.

From the side they look like a steel I-beam. There is a top and bottom section, with a vertical member in between. They utilize a lot of glue, which is why the fire department does not like them if they get too hot. The glue melts!

There are strict guidelines for their installation, necessarily. They are strong when left intact, and not so strong if cut improperly. Hence the guidelines.

These guidelines are based on codes imposed by Mother Nature. She is a very strict disciplinarian.

But she also enforces her codes with impunity.

Just look at her! Impunity I tell you! Impunity means "exemption from punishment or consequences." Go ahead, try to punish Mother Nature for her code...

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