Rewire a ceiling fan, ceiling fan on, not controllable by switch


Friends with electrical background could use some help. The top drawing was the original of how the electrical ran in my wall. The thing I messed up and did was not take a picture of the switch before I dismantled it. There was a jumper in the switch box, connecting what wires I don't know. This switch would only control the ceiling fan in our kitchen.

I went to rewire it, which is the new drawing, bottom version and now, the switch for the fan doesn't work, ceiling fan stays on unless you pull chains, and the switch now controls a switch box in my dining room for an outlet and the outside lights. Any idea which wires the jumper would have been for, I think that's all I need to right this ship. Or maybe it's more than that

Sorry, was hoping to post a picture. Original wall wiring was w/b from attic to outlet, w/b from outlet to switch, red, white and black out of switch to fan. Now, in the junction box in my attic, I have the original w/b from the outlet coming in to...

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Last week I described how an outlet should be wired for switch control when the voltage enters the circuit at the outlet. This setup is how our master bedroom was wired before I installed an overhead ceiling fan. As promised, I detail below how to modify this wiring setup with minimal effort so that the switch can instead control an overhead fixture. Later this week, I’ll post some before and after pics from our ceiling fan installation. Before we get started, let’s briefly review last week’s diagram:

Review of Switched Outlet Wiring (Power Enters at the Outlet)

In this diagram, voltage enters the circuit at location (A) in a standard 2-wire (+ground) Romex. The white neutral wire from this Romex is connected directly to the silver terminals on the receptacle (E), and the black hot wire is connected to the white wire running to the switch (B). The white and black wires from this Romex are connected to the switch (C). The black wire at the switch is now...

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The black wire(on the receptacle) will have a white wire paired with it coming into the box. The white wire associated with it should be the other switch leg. It will probably be connected to a black wire(constant power) under a wire nut. The white wire sends power to the switch and the black wire sends it back.

You should put a tester on this pairing to confirm it's live, whether the switch is on or off.

The black wire that's connected to the white switch wire(under the wire nut) can be put on the receptacle and the other black wire ,on there now, can be removed. Test to see if the outlet is live. This should make the receptacle permanently on. The switch leg can then be capped in both boxes.

This scenario is if the switch leg was wired properly. The black wire(power leg) is supposed to be interrupted in the connection. Sometimes you see the white neutral leg interrupted. If that's the case, the rewiring scenario will need to be...

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for USA, Canada and countries running a 60 Hz power supply service. You would probably have to open up portions of the sheet rock (or whatever wall material you have) in order to snake electrical cable from the switch up to where the fan is going to be mounted. There are wiring code restrictions on how cable is run and secured behind the wall. Best advice to you is get a free quote from a local licensed electrician, can't hurt to get an idea of what a professional would charge you for doing it right. I just did this in my own home. You don't have to be licensed electrician. And, if your house is wired like mine, you don't have to destroy your walls. But you should feel comfortable working with electricity before you take this on. You should also be aware that, if you screw something up and your house burns down, your home-owner's insurance may not pay up if they discover you did some amateur electrician work. Whatever happens, I refuse to accept responsibility or liability...

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Here is a quesion from a site visitor asking how to wire a ceiling fan and light kit with separate control switches for the fan and the light.

Question: I would like to wire two ceiling fans — the power comes into the box first — I would also like to have two separate switches for lights and fans. Any diagrams would be helpful. Thanks for your help.

Answer: In the question above, I am assuming that this is a new installation, and as I understand the question, the power now comes in to the first ceiling box intended for mounting the ceiling fan. In roughing in wiring for a ceiling box that has a potential to have a ceiling fan installed either now, or in the future, it prudent to wire the circuit for separate control of the fan and the light kit on individual switches.

Make sure you mount the ceiling outlet boxes firmly, and with extra support so as to handle the additional weight of the fan. Check with your local electrical and building inspector, as well as...

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Wiring a ceiling fan and light can seem like a daunting task, but it doesn’t have to be. Pro Tool Reviews gives you a visual guide and step by step instructions on making the best connections for your particular ceiling fan installation. ON a scale of 1-10, the level of difficulty on this project is a 5, though it can be more complex if you include the ancillary projects such as running wiring through walls, etc.

The main thing to consider wiring a ceiling fan and light is determining how you want that fan to be controlled. For some, that will be any combination from no switches (using the included pull chains for powering the fan and/or light) and having separate switches for the light and fan.


Having the right tools will help the project to go smoothly and ensure you don’t get bogged down trying to use, for example, a razor knifed to strip wires, when a pair of wire strippers will do the job more accurately and about 10x...

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SOLVED: I have a Hampton Bay 54" ceiling fan (pewter color with leather coating), and it has no reverse switch either. It was running, but in the opposite direction I wanted. Out of the box it came with a remote wall switch that must be installed in the wall control box, as the fan's speed and reversal is controlled by a relay inside the fan. I haven't found a way to get this relay to "flip" without using the signal from the original remote. They wanted $70 for a new remote, the fan only cost $90~! Fark that!

However, if you lost this switch, there is another mod, if you open up the fan's housing, you'll find Black, White and Blue wires going into a small black box circuit box containing a green board with some capacitors. There is also a separate smaller box containing a small capacitor that says "4.5 uF" with red and white wires leading out of it. There are also four wires: Gray, Pink, Red and Yellow. You can rewire the fan thusly to use either no remote (always on) or...

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To wire a ceiling fan we first have to know the options available on the fan. Most common fans either come with a light or without a light. Although you can get just a ceiling fan most units offer a light kit that can be added in the future. I will be going over the circuits required for all of the options mentioned.

Let's keep in mind that my site is about the wiring aspect only. As far as getting your ceiling fan installed, Please follow the manufacturers manuals and safety guidelines for proper mounting due to weight and other variables which can be an important factor.

More often than not, you're going to have a ceiling light fixture at the location you are planning on installing a ceiling fan. If this is the case, then odds are that this old ceiling light only has enough wires to switch off & on the fan and not the light. If so then a new wire must be ran to control the light as well....

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–Check local regulations for restrictions and permit requirements before beginning electrical work– The user of this information is responsible for following all applicable regulations and best practices when performing electrical work. If the user is unable to perform electrical work themselves, a qualified electrician should be consulted.

–Most wiring diagrams on this site include a green dot representing the integrated grounding terminal found in most metal outlet boxes. However, some older metal boxes and most plastic boxes don't have a terminal like this.
–By code, the number of conductors allowed in a box are limited depending on its size. Conductors include wires, devices like switches and receptacles, and some other metal parts. Check here to calculate the number of conductors allowed in a box before adding new wiring, etc.

NOTE: The hot wire to the fan in a fan/light kit will usually be black and the light wire will be blue. The white wire is usually the...

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3 Speed Ceiling Fan Switch Wiring Diagram

Frequently Asked Questions

How do I wire a new ceiling fan switch?

I am replacing a ceiling fan switch that broke. The chain pulled out and it was left on high. So I bought a new 3 speed pull chain switch that looks identical to the old one.

I wired up the switch identical to the old configuration and nothing happened. Can you help me figure out wires go into which ports on the switch?

Here is a diagram of the current wiring out of the fan.


it looks like the purple is the line and the others are the speeds there will not be a ground on the switch so hook the purple up to the L and the others in the same order 1 ,2 ,and 3. as they came off the old switch if this does not work it may be a bad switch or the fan could have other problems .i can’t troubleshoot it...

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This assumes that the incoming power is at the switch location. Slightly different technique applies if incoming power is at the fan location. These instructions apply to US home electrical systems.

Turn off the power

Using a tester, check all wires at the fan and the switch locations to make sure there is no current.

Run a 3-wire cable from the switch box to the fan. The cable will have (usually) a white, a black, and a red, in addition to the ground (earth) wire which is bare.

In the switch box:
Split the incoming hot wire into a "Y" and connect it to a terminal on each switch.
Connect the black wire of your 3-wire cable to the other terminal of switch #1.
Connect the red wire of your 3-wire cable to the other terminal of switch #2.
Connect the incoming white (neutral) wire to the white wire of your 3-wire cable.
Connect all the bare (ground or earth) wires together.

At the fan:
Connect white to white

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Mounting the Ceiling Fan Electrical Wire Box to the Cross Support and Installing the Cable

The Attic electrical wiring is secured to the cross piece. The Cable and block are ready for ceiling fan wire box. Wire into Ceiling Fan Electrical Box
Ceiling fan cable is protected using an insulated bushing. Ceiling Fan Wiring Box Mounted
Ceiling fan box is mounted to the cross support wood block. Ceiling Fan Ground Wire
Ceiling fan ground wire is bonded to the box. Ceiling Fan Cradle Bracket
The ceiling fan cradle assembly is mounted.

With the ceiling electrical box mounted in place I am ready for the ceiling fan cradle bracket. After stripping the cable and cutting away the outside sheath cover, I feed the wires through the center opening of the bracket. When using a remote control module the wires can be brought down on the side of the bracket to allow space for the module to slide into place above the ceiling fan stem.

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Ceiling Fan Installation

I have just installed a ceiling fan (with light kit)in my gameroom but I am not sure about the wiring. The fan has a black and white wire and the electrical box has a black, red and white. I am putting the fan on a dual switch so I what the fan controlled on one switch and the light on the other. But the problem comes in on how to do the wiring when I only have one hot wire coming from the fan. Does anyone know how I should handle this so that each switch controls a functions?

Depending on what products you used and how you connected everything, the light kit should have its own black (sometimes blue) wire. You may have connected this to the fan's black resulting in only one hot wire. You can connect the hot wire from the light kit directly to the hot wire from the switch.

Ceiling Light Wiring

I have a ceiling light with a pull chain switch. I want to add a second porcelain keyless lamp base to another part of the...

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Insufficient Electrical Wiring

A ceiling fan's control box must connect with a room's wiring to operate.

Wiring the device to a light switch makes operating the fan as easy as turning on a light in the room. Problems with home wiring lead to problems with the fan's power, especially in an older home.

The outlet wiring in the room with the ceiling fan might be inadequate. If the outlet wiring in a given room only has two connections, a black and a white wire, you can't hook the fan into these outlets unless you purchase a control box specifically designed for your fan model. Paying an electrician to rewire a room to support the ceiling fan without purchasing a specific control box is expensive. Outlets wired with three separate connections can accommodate a ceiling fan, but you will still need to purchase a control box to wire the fan into the wall outlet. The difference is that you don't need a control box specific to the ceiling fan brand.

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Most ceiling fans have three speeds from which to choose. You change the speed of the blades by pulling on the chain. Over time, the plastic fan speed control switch inside the ceiling fan can crack or burn out, or the chain can break, requiring you to replace the switch. Ceiling fan speed control switches are not universal; however, many companies make aftermarket replacement switches to install in your ceiling fan. You must remove the original speed switch and take it to a home improvement center or lighting supply to obtain the correct replacement.

Turn off the circuit breaker to your ceiling fan circuit. Hold a noncontact voltage sensor next to the wall switch that powers your ceiling fan. If power is still present at the light switch, the noncontact voltage sensor will flash and sound an alarm.

Try to turn the ceiling fan on at the light switch and check if the ceiling fan lights come on when you pull the light chain. Use a stepladder to access the top of the...

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The process of wiring a ceiling fan so that a remote receiver controls the fan and, if present, a light as well, isn't as complex as you might expect. The receiver typically goes in the ceiling mount, with a small antenna projecting out of the housing to receive the remote control’s signal. You can wire a new ceiling fan with a remote to a wall switch or retrofit an older fan to accept an aftermarket remote kit.

Flip off the circuit breaker controlling the wall switch in the room. Double-check that it is off by mounting a ladder to the ceiling fan. Turn on a non-contact voltage tester and hold it up to the wiring. The absence of a bright orange or red glow combined loud beeping indicates a lack of voltage in the wires and that it is safe to proceed.

Follow the manufacturer’s instructions on how to match the DIP switches in the receiver to those in the remote control, changing both from their original factory settings. Push the switches into the place with a sharp...

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Ok, had to call the guy again!

This is what he wants:

Since he already has a 2-gang box at each location he doesn't want to change box sizes.

All he wants is to control the fan (on/off & speed) from one 3-way
And to dim and turn on/off the light from the other 3-way.

He is fine with one set of the 3-ways just for fan and light control and the other set of 3-ways just on/off.

However, he would like a price on controlling speed & dimming from both locations and price for controlling from one location and on/off from the other.

So I need info on both types of 3-ways.
One for control from two locations and
One for control from one location and on/off from the other location.

Some of the sites I have looked at don't say if their 3-way controllers will work with a regular 3-way or if you have to have a 2nd 3-way controller.

Anyone have links or pics of what you use for both of these...

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