Should I install baseboards before or after laminate flooring?

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Baseboards should be installed after laminate.

Most (all?) Laminate is a floating flooring system which means it doesn't actually attach to the subfloor (friction holds it in place once all the pieces are set together. As a result, it will expand/contract a bit with temperature/humidity changes in the house. Because of this, you have to leave a small (quarter inch) gap around the outside edge. The baseboards are then installed to cover the gap.

Also, laminate is very difficult to cut with a saw without at least minor chipping. So unless you are going to buy a special cutter (looks like a large paper cutter), you are going to want to hide that cut edge. Luckily, the way laminate is normally installed, the only cut edges are along the walls or transitions so they are...

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If you do not, you may void the manufactures warranty– although the chances of collecting on a warranty are almost impossible.

That being said, the recommended guidelines for installing a hard wood floor are universal. They do not vary, regardless of where you live.

The problem with the guidelines however, is that climate difference has a big effect on wood flooring. A very humid climate (southwest U.S) will cause the floor to expand more than in the northeast where Ace Wood Flooring Inc. is based.

Because we are located in the northeast, we use a three step installation technique:

Remove baseboards
The use of an additional 3 quarter round molding on top of the baseboard
Snug fit the flooring to the baseboards
In the northeast we have more dry months than humid months.

Each installation should be judged by the installer and the homeowner. It should take into account many variables, i.e. moisture, humidity, wall and base board paint,and...

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Dear Bob and Betsy,
I would like to know if we can install laminate flooring before or after installing our new kitchen cabinets & counter -or- should we build kitchen first and then install laminate? We reside in FL where temperatures fluctuate less than other areas and the a/c is usually on all year. Would that solve the expansion/contraction concerns that leads to possible buckling. We realize that putting down the laminate after the kitchen is re-done probably is recommended, however then there is the problem of the dishwasher getting trapped in (for removal/repair), stove & refrigerator being different heights, with all 3 appliances affecting cabinet & counter height to make everything even. But then, if we put down the laminate first, how could we remove the planks if there is possible water leaks from refrigerator water line or dishwasher. We are so confused. The only solution would to put down porcelain tile first and then build the kitchen. However, we love the wood...

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Just thought I’d share a little about two sort of major updates that have happened in my home this past month. We’ve lived in our home for a little less than two years (see my empty house tour here) and Trey and I are both feeling like it’s going to be our home for a long, long time (although I guess you never really know the future, but that’s what we’re planning for now). Obviously no house is perfect, although we definitely love this one a lot. But for most of the time we’ve lived here I’ve really wanted to find ways to make the space feel brighter. The house has plenty of windows (although I wouldn’t mind...

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Thanks everyone for your responses. I failed to mention in my post that we cannot use quarter round to finish off the boards. It is just baseboards which have to be spaced correctly so that the flooring fits underneath, but isn't so high that there is still a gap after the flooring goes in.

Mighty, it's not that our painter is being a PITA. I can't fault the guy if that's the way he does it, he's trying to protect our floors. If he was doing it "wrong", then certainly we would correct him, but it doesn't make sense ticking off a subtrade by forcing him to paint in a way he's not comfortable with. DH has already run in to several instances where commercial building methods are different than residential, but he's up to learning new methods, he's just nervous installing the baseboards as he's not sure what spacing to use.

Worthy, what you've described is exactly how the painter wants it done. We have hardwood and porcelain tile on the main floors and carpet w/underlay...

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This savvy guide will teach you how to install laminate flooring like a boss. Print this out and follow it alongside the manufacturer’s installation guidelines you received with your new batch of laminate floor.

Acclimation 72 Hours

Hold your horses. Before getting caveman with your laminate flooring installation you must allow the planks to acclimate in the room for at least 72 hours. This is because laminate flooring can expand and contract according to humidity levels in the room. The last thing you want is for the flooring to significantly expand or contract after it has been installed. This could cause the floor boards to separate or buckle.

Use the acclimation time to unpack the planks and inspect the product. Look for defects such as chipping, splitting, warping or broken tongues and grooves. It is always savvy to order 5 to 10% more than your required square footage to account for damaged boards, waste and spares for future repairs.

Top Tip –...

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We can follow below mention tips when installing the laminated flooring

• The beginning wall of the flooring should be more visible than your ending wall.

• Remove any previous carpeting or wood flooring glued to a concrete floor. (Wood flooring NOT glued to a concrete floor can remain.)

• A good visual effect can be achieved by mixing planks from 4 to 5 different boxes. The width of the joint between the tiles on each strip may vary. Using these strips and placing thin joints next to thick joints gives a more natural look.

• After measuring the area of the floor to be covered with the Laminate Flooring, add 10% to allow as wastage.

• If your room is smaller, a gap 0.50 of inch can work.

• For installing laminated flooring around pipes first drill a hole in the plank that is some inch larger than the pipe diameter. Cut the plank across the center of the circle, fit around the pipe on the floor, glue plank pieces back together and clamp....

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Step 1: Acclimate the flooring. Flooring should sit in the room for at least 48 hours prior to installation, giving it time to expand or contract in relation to the room's temperature and humidity. This prevents buckling and other problems after installation.

Step 2: Remove existing baseboard molding. Use the pry bar to remove baseboard from the wall and set the pieces aside for reinstallation. Floating laminate planks (the kind used in this project) should be installed over a hard, smooth surface, such as vinyl. Remove damaged flooring to reveal the subfloor.

Step 3: Install the underlayment. Clear the floor of staples, nails, and other debris. Roll out the underlayment. Do not overlap adjoining strips. Use the utility knife to cut pieces as needed. The foam underlayment deadens sound and helps the floor feel more...

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Final, final...

In the interest of trying to convince @greenfish (&others) that the construction & flooring industry isn't ENTIRELY inhabited by mindless, knuckle dragging dolts who apparently do not have the common sense or desire to color inside the lines... allow me to suggest this.

Inform them that you insist on having the prescribed expansion area between your new flooring and any walls, base, or other vertical obstructions...

If they imply that it's too late, they are either simply blowing smoke, or are as clueless as your thread (to this points) suggests.

Tell them they can buy, borrow, rent, or steal a toe-kick saw which will cut FLUSH to the wall or baseboards. http://www.craintools.com/saws/toe-kick-saw

Although I'm always hesitant to recommend the use of power equipment to the "thinking impaired", I guess by now there's indications they can cut wood, albeit incorrectly.

If they have two brain cells to rub together amongst them......

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Gearing up for tile floors? Don’t hammer away just yet. It’s important to plan for every little detail, including what you’re going to do with your baseboards and whether the tile you selected is suitable for children and pets. Make sure you answer these six questions before you get started on your tile installation.

1. Are you keeping your baseboards?

Yes: Consider whether or not you want to remove your baseboards before installing your tile. Most, if not all, flooring types require a small gap between the edge of the floor and the wall to allow room for movement. If you don’t remove your baseboards, that gap must be covered with quarter round (a convex molding whose cross section is a quarter of a circle), which will affect the trim’s aesthetics.

No: You won’t need any quarter round if you install new baseboards after your tile has been installed. This ensures a clean aesthetic and is the preferred method of many professionals.

2. Do you have...

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Laminate flooring has become increasingly popular in recent years. As a floor covering option that requires less maintenance than carpeting and other types of flooring, laminated flooring is available in many different colors and styles. The flooring can resemble natural wood floors as well as provide the appearance of other flooring types. Fortunately, just about anyone has the skill set to install laminate flooring, making it the ideal weekend project.

Before you begin to install laminate flooring, it is important to assemble your tools and materials. Along with your choice of flooring, you will need a rubber mallet, hammer and nails, padding to go under the flooring, a utility knife and a coping saw to trim sections of the flooring. A tape measure and a pull bar will complete the basics required to do the job.

To install laminate flooring, it is necessary to prepare the space where you will place the flooring. This means taking up carpeting and padding, as well as...

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Floor before cabinets or cabinets before floor? Like turning a prism to the light, the answer to this question changes when the factors are different. Consider this familiar scenario:

You are doing a full-scale, rip-down remodel of your kitchen where everything comes out and gets replaced: walls, cabinets, flooring, appliances. After the demo, it is time to put in new flooring and cabinets. But which one should be installed first: cabinets or flooring?

Bottom Line

In most cases, given standard flooring heights, you can install the cabinets before the floor covering. Floor covering, or finish flooring, is the surface that you see and walk on, not the sub-floor and not an underlayment.

Floor covering will be cut to size and almost butted against the cabinets. A minimal gap should be left between the flooring and the cabinets. This gap will be covered by baseboard or shoe molding that is nailed to the bottom of the base cabinets.

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How much does it cost to install laminate flooring?

Laminate flooring is a manufactured multi-layered synthetic floor that is fused together using a lamination process, which simulates the look of wood, stone, or tile with a photographic layer under a clear protective layer. There are many benefits to installing it due to its durability (up to 30 years) cheaper price, and ability to withstand exposure to debris and water.

The average project of installing a laminate floor in the average 200 square foot kitchen (measuring 10'x20') costs $1,600-$5,000 This cost does NOT include removal of old flooring, re-installation of molding or baseboards, furniture removal, and delivery and installation fees.

Factors affecting the cost

One would assume that the smaller the square footage, the lower the price. For lamination installation however, this is not true. The smaller the area in which the floor is being placed, the higher the cost will be per square foot....

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Whether you’re tackling your first DIY flooring project, or hiring an experienced and professional installer it’s important to know exactly what to expect during your laminate installation.

Before any work begins, it’s important to properly measure your room to determine exactly how much flooring will be required. Your flooring dealer may either provide this service for free or possibly provide you with expert advice on the proper way to calculate your flooring estimate.

In general, every room in which a flooring installation will be taking place should be off limits to you and your family until the installation is complete. Regardless of how much time you’ve allowed for the installation, there is always the possibility of unforeseen problems, so make sure you build in an extra few days into your timetable for the project.

Below are a few items to expect prior to and during your installation:

Typically, if you live in a climate-controlled home,...
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The tongue and groove planks are installed over foam underlayment which allows for moisture and sound reduction in the room. When properly installed, laminate flooring is very attractive and closely r...

The tongue and groove planks are installed over foam underlayment which allows for moisture and sound reduction in the room. When properly installed,

laminate flooring

is very attractive and closely resembles real wood flooring.

Baseboards should be removed, to be replaced after the laminate is installed. If the flooring is to be installed over concrete, lay a 6 mm plastic moisture barrier over the floor, overlapping the strips of plastic. If the subfloor is of any other material, this step is not necessary.

Then, lay a strip of underlayment against the wall you’ve chosen to start the installation. If your planks already have foam backing this step can be skipped. Lay each strip of underlayment as the installation progresses.

Measure across...

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Where can I install laminate flooring?

Laminate flooring can be installed in almost any type of room whether it is below, above, or on grade. Floating laminate floors be installed over wood flooring, concrete, linoleum, tile, or almost any hard, flat surface, but not on carpet and not over another floating surface. Laminate flooring is not recommended for wet areas such as bathrooms, saunas, and so on.

Can I install laminate flooring on stairs?

Laminate flooring can be installed on stairs but it is recommended that you glue it to the steps with strong flooring adhesive. Allow the glue to dry completely before walking on the steps. Any moldings or transitions should be nailed to the steps.

Can I install laminate flooring on a porch or patio?

No, these areas often experience extreme climate variations. Laminate flooring must be installed in an area that is climate-controlled.

Is it possible to install laminate flooring over carpet?

No, laminate flooring must be...

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Most of the time the order we do things in is obvious: cereal before milk, pants before shoes, wash before dry. Sometimes, however, the order is not so clear. Homeowners often wonder, when refreshing or updating a whole room, whether to install new flooring or to repaint the walls and trim first. While either order can work when done right, MB Jessee recommends installing flooring first for several reasons.

There are two main problems that can easily occur if flooring is installed after painting. One of them is potential damage to the new paint job. Since a roll of carpet is always the width of the room, it is easy to scrape walls as you enter and place the new floor covering. When tiling a floor, working with a trowel near the walls can often lead to dents in the baseboards. Installing a wood or laminate floor can also entail using glue and tools near your baseboards and lower walls, often leading to unsightly mishaps and damage. Any of these dents, scratches, and scrapes...

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Intro

To save money when staining, select wood based on the appearance of the grain, and stain to personal preferences. Cherry, for example, is an expensive wood, but you can get a comparable look by buying birch and applying a cherry stain. The grain and hardness of cherry and birch are very similar.

Prestart Checklist

Time
About 45 minutes total (not including drying time) to sand, finish, and fill holes on an 8-foot length

Tools
Sandpaper (fine and medium grits), sanding block, tack cloth, putty knife, paintbrush, lint-free cloths, disposable foam brushes, #0000 steel wool

Skills
Using sandpaper and a paintbrush

Prep
Fill knotholes, sand

Materials
Baseboard, wood filler, mineral spirits or paint thinner, paint, stain, clear polyurethane or...

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Decide whether to miter or cope your inside corners.

For inside corners, the process of mitering is the same as it is for outside corners, except that the angles are reversed. But not all carpenters want to miter inside corners, because the corners are rarely perfectly square and the resulting joint can be sloppy.

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If you're looking for a tighter fit or you're installing baseboards which won't take paint or additional caulking, learn how to

cut a traditional coped joint

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The process is actually fairly simple. Start with a 45° inside cut on the baseboard you want to cope. The other end of the baseboard won't need to be cut at all; the coped joint will simply cover up the remaining...
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Which Direction Should I Lay The Flooring?

Floor preparation, knowing where to start is the first thing I need to know. So I ask my customer, Mrs Smith have you considered the direction you want your floor to go? She may have a preference or she may not. Knowing which direction the floor is going to lay will determine where you will start your floor preparation.

The floor can go either way, front to back or side to side. What I usually tell my customers is, it looks better to run it the long way, which is the longest stretch of room. It seems to be more pleasing to the eye and it makes the room appear longer.

Installing the laminate floors perpendicular to a light source (such as sliding glass doors or a large window) also tends give the floor a pleasing look.

On the other hand you may like it looking across the floor rather then down the length of it.

Once you decide, we can figure out where to start with the flooring. If your not...

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Quote:

Rhino, if that is the case, your leaving a ton of profits on the table!!!!

It depends on the board width, as what I base my services on. I have done it as low as $2.00 a foot up to $5 a foot, with extras, being extra.

I have been as low as $1.25 a l.ft. to $10 a l.ft. for trim work.

I have been as low as .11ў a sq.ft, to as much as $4 a sq.ft. for carpet removal and disposal.

All floor prep is T&M. As I would hate to put a number on it, and it not need anything, or very very minimal, and you think I ripped you off.

The list of extras go on and on. I could even nickle and dime you, if the job requires it.

No job is the same, so there is no one price fits all, price structure.

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As with any flooring type, there are inherent advantages and disadvantages that come along with the choice of laminate flooring. One of the biggest benefits of laminate flooring that homeowners love is the price. It is less costly than installing real wood floors in the home. This type of flooring is also very durable. Unlike real wood, it is much more difficult to scratch, stain or dent laminate because of the way it is manufactured. In addition to its low price and high durability, laminate flooring also does not require much maintenance. Unlike traditional wood floors, which may require sanding and refinishing over time, all it takes to clean and maintain laminate flooring is periodic surface cleaning, which can be done using a mop, water and floor cleaner.

Laminate flooring can also typically be installed over existing flooring, which can save homeowners a lot of time and hassle. It can also save them money as removing existing flooring can be quite pricey. Homeowners...

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In the doorway, boards should extend to the threshold. Keep laying boards until you near the final wall, and a whole board is too wide to fit. Cut some wood to the width of a board, and sharpen one end. Loosely position a board over the previous whole board fitted. Run the pointed end along the wall, using a pencil at the other end to draw the profile onto the loose board (Image 1).

Cut along the guide line of the wall’s profile with a jigsaw, then position the board in the doorway (Image 2).

Install the board, using a pry bar to tap in the clip-together mechanism. Use this method to cut and attach all boards against the wall (Image 3).

Install a threshold strip in the doorway. Choose a suitable one for the types of flooring that will meet here (Image 4).

Finish off the room with lengths of edging (shoe molding), pinned or glued (with contact adhesive) to the baseboard. This is to cover the expansion gap (Image...

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How to install laminate flooring perfectly

Tips for laying glue-less click together floors

When you install laminate flooring, two of the most important things to get right are where you choose to start laying the first boards, and which tools you use to cut laminate flooring with.

Laying the first row

There are two things I generally consider before I decide on laying the first row to start the installation. Which is the straightest wall, and which is the trickiest area to deal with?

There's a bit of a judgement call to make. Ideally, in a normal square room I start laying the floor on the longest, straightest wall if it's parallel to the direction I want the floor to run (I generally lay the floor to run in the same direction as the light coming in). Once you have two or three straight rows clicked together it's usually plain sailing after that.

However, sometimes I start to install laminate flooring at the most difficult side of...

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Laminate flooring has become a very popular choice for do-it-yourselfers due to the fact that it’s economical, durable, and easy to install. Several varieties of laminate wood flooring are available, offering consumers a vast array of aesthetic choices. Most laminate flooring products share similar characteristics: a pressed wood base; a durable, adhered laminate finish; and a self-locking tongue and groove system. These systems typically do not require fasteners or adhesives – they just lock into place, basically “floating” above the subfloor. Join the At Home channel host, Jeff Wilson, for a tutorial on installing a laminate floor.

Area Prep

Before laying any of the laminate floor it is important to prep the work area and subfloor.

Remove furniture and appliances from the room.

Remove shoe molding and/or baseboard trim as necessary. You will need to install new or salvaged baseboard or shoe molding to cover the expansion gaps at the perimeter of...

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Lay down your padding.[3]

Most padding and plastic is all in one, but if yours is not, then cover the plastic lining with a foam floor padding. This is to prevent any residue left on the floor such as small rocks and sand from causing dimples in the flooring and to give it a cushion. It will also prevent any creaking or squeaking noises when people walk on the floor. Cut the foam lining to fit the floor and tape it down. Do not allow the foam to overlap.

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