Wiring Help Needed to replace Ceiling Fan w/light to light only (see pictures)


I think ThreePhaseEel and A.I. Berveleri have figured this out. That circuit was originally wired for a light only, with a 12/2 cable going up there - hot (black), neutral (white) and ground.

Somebody added the fan later on, and they cheated. They used ground for neutral. They used black for the fan and white for the light.

First, mark your wires. Get some electrical tape and bundle together the white now going to TO LIGHT and the black going to TO FAN. These go to the fixture. Do that as far back as you can, so they are still free.

Note the black with white stripe wire. The wire nutted to it is supply power, or "always hot". Mark it (solo) with electrical tape so you can find it again.

Now, think about replacing that switch. Either with a plain switch, or with a modern dimmer or smart switch that plays well with LEDs and may have a neutral. Don't bother with CFLs, they are obsolete.

Now to put it back proper. The fixture white and black will be...

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So here's the deal:

When I moved into the house we had a ceiling fan over the dining room table, the house came with it. Said fan has a light fixture in it. Light worked off the switch, fan worked independent of switch on pull chain (switch could be off, light off, but could have fan on if desired by pulling chain). This evening the wife and I decided to get rid of the ceiling fan and replace it with a standard, hanging light fixture.

I went to take the fan down and discovered two separate bundles of wiring, each with one black, one white and one bare copper. I know the blacks to be hot, the whites to be neutral and the bare copper to be ground. I was not able to see exactly how everything was wired together with the fan as the wires pulled out from the wire nuts as I dropped the fan down (darn thing is HEAVY). I made the educated guess that one of the bundles was the "always on" wire for the fan and the other was the switched wire for the light...

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Assess whether there are wires inside the housing for a lighting assembly.

Because you will want to be able to control the light and the fan separately, there will need to be existing wiring inside the housing to allow light assembly operation. You should see several wires inside the housing that are capped off by themselves with wire nuts. They could be a variety of colors but most likely will be black (power) and white (neutral).



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With any luck the wires inside the housing will even be labeled with something like "lighting power" or something like that. This is a very good sign that you will be able to attach a lighting...
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Watch video of this step.

If you have access from above, you can make and install your own support brace using a length of 2x4 lumber nailed to the ceiling joists on both sides of the box location (Image 2). Position the brace directly above the ceiling box. From below, use wood screws to attach the ceiling box securely to the brace.

If you do not have access to work above the ceiling, you can install an expanding metal brace from below to support the ceiling box and fan. First, remove the existing box, then insert the brace up through the hole and secure it in position by ratcheting the mechanism into place. As the ratchet is turned from below, arms on the brace extend until they contact the ceiling joists on both sides of the hole (Image 3 demonstration). The spikes on the arms anchor securely into the wood. Some braces are available with a ceiling box attached, or you can attach the existing ceiling box to the brace.

This method also may be used to mount a...

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I have power to the fan because the fan works but i can't get the lights to turn on. It had been working earlier today and then it blew the breaker in the house and now the lights won't turn on but the...

If the fan works then you are getting power again to the fan so that's OK. The lights are wired off of the same wires that power the fan normally so that means the problem is in the light assembly. Now there are different ways that ceiling fans are wired and you will need to figure out which you have as it is important and you will need to know which wires do what.
Usually black wires are used for fan, blue is used for the light kit, white wire is used for the common or neutral for both, while green is used for mechanical ground. This is very important!
One way to wire a ceiling fan is for the power to be directly wired to the fan, which is usually hot. The black and blue wires are connected to each other through the hot feed and pull strings ...

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Thanks for replying Adam444

To answer your question, Yes, the wall switch has 1 white, 1 black, and ground wire. That's it.

Also, to be clear with your assessment, the conduit at the 3:30 position comes from the wall switch, and includes the only white wire in the whole ceiling box.

The two conduits at the 12-1 o'clock position have no white wires. The wires are all black (2 from 12 o'clock/ 3 from 1 o'clock) and consist of a sort of "cloth" type insulation. With my voltage detector, I've found that from the conduit at 1 o'clock is coming direct from the breaker. In particular, the wire marked with green tape (next to ground wire below).

Through my process of elimination, I've also found that the one wire from the conduit at 12 o'clock (showing in new pic as hanging alone), feeds the rest of the apartment.

Finally, The wires included in the tan/yellow nut, did not connect to anything in the ceiling fan that I removed. From the beginning, I have not...

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This can usually be done. A good electrician can get the original box out and replace it with one that is marked as 'approved for fan support'.

As to the switching issues....You have some options:
-Have new wiring and switches installed.
-Use a remote control system (these are fairly common)
-Use the existing wiring/switch. If you do this, you will probably leave the switch on most of the time and just use the pullchain switches on the fan/light.

The existing switch wiring will not operate the fan and light independently without the remote control.

Whatever you decide to do, PLEASE ignore the bad advice from michael and nima. Getting a "lightweight" fan does not solve any problems. You MUST make sure that your electrical box is marked with "acceptable for fan support". The fan manufacturer will warn you of this at least 3 times (on the outside of the box, in the installation directions, and a label on the actual mounting bracket). This is for very...

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Ceiling fixtures come in lots of different shapes and there are many different ways to attach them. But no matter how a fixture is hung, the wiring is simple.

To replace a ceiling fixture, the first thing you do is turn off the power. Next remove the light bulb cover and bulbs from the fixture. You might want to get someone to help before you continue, because once you unscrew the screws or nuts, holding the fixture to the ceiling, you’ll need both hands to work on the wires.

Lower the fixture base and then use a circuit tester to be sure all wires in the box are dead. The circuit tester should read zero.

Next remove the electrical tape or wire nuts from the black or hot wire, the white or neutral wire and if there is one, the green or ground wire.

Attach the wires from the new fixture with wire nuts to the corresponding wires in the electrical box.

Now, raise and position the new base plate so that you can screw the new...

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Help needed asap fitting ceiling fan light wires ?
taken down old ceiling fan and replaced but the instructions only show diagrams with 9 supply wires or 3 supply wires. My supply wires are 2 black in seperate blocks, 2 reds in one block together and a earth. I need to connect one brown , 1 blue and one red wire ( which has light on it ) . Help needed please to sort this out ! I connected red - red , black - brown , black - blue and earth-earth turned light on only 2 spotlights came on and fan didn't work. Any ideas ? right i checked the light connection and one was faulty went to b&q and replaced it now thats fitted and all three spots work great but still no fan is it because of the dimmmer switch ? as the dimmer wont work either i changed the dimmer switch to a standard switch and it still dosnt work so i assume the answer with wiring details below will work but its too dark to do that now i will try it in the morning and let you know ..thanks by the way right fiddled this...

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queenvilla, you illustrate my point with your photo.

The light on the fan lowers the height visually of your lovely ceiling and draws the eye to that illuminated glass bowl which provides very little light and certainly poor quality light at that. It doesn't enhance the lovely aspects of the furniture beneath it, and it's not possible to read using this light. It's not even bright enough to clean using that light...............it's just light.

As I look around my office, this small 12 x 15 room has three various types of table lamps to illuminate the room at both high and low levels. Your room could use a narrow lamp on the sideboard, one in the corner to illuminate the plant and probably another table light for the lounge chair. Your current lamp would provide better light with a linen instead of opaque paper shade which directs the light only up and down. Many times people add more and more objects to their rooms to make them interesting, but the room likely...

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